Posts by John Davis

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The Governing Body's Public Denial Of Being Easy On Childmolesters Will Hurt Them Big Time In Court

by Brokeback Watchtower in

lett made a complete public denial of any wrong doing on the part of those directing watchtower policies i think his statement as well as splane's statements of denial to the portugal indoctrinated members certainly shows the evil information he is willing to spill out to keep these matters of serious concern away from their believing public there in portugal.. i feel these videos if they can be used in court cases of child molestation will swing the jury toward megabuck$$$ based on the denial expressed to make these denying ass holes wake up and shrivel up their real estate assets quicker.

these videos make it very plane that these guys are evil and deserve to be given the maximum fine that the jury can award to the victims.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2gqnwvvwtk.

John Davis

It probably wouldn't be allowed in court for two reasons. First that the Governing Body are not directors or agents of any corporation used by Jehovah's Witnesses. A lawsuit would be against the corporations where they legally don't make policies for nor do they answer to those corporations.

Second, is that in the US a court cannot interpret what a member of the clergy says is right or wrong as long as it is their truly held religious beliefs and that it doesn't promote the breaking of a civil law. Neither of those clips promotes breaking of any civil law and would probably never be admitted.

Also on top of those two things, courts have consistently ruled that suits against Watchtower should not include punitive damages in most cases. That is what the Conti Case saw and what happened in Vermont just this year.

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August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing

by wifibandit in

august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.

John Davis

The letter is for those who are active in a form of special full-time service. It could also be that before the last few years it was rare for a remote worker and construction volunteers did not fall under the same classification.

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September 1, 2017 BOE Re: Protecting Minors From Abuse?

by wifibandit in

i have it in spanish for now: .

1 de septiembre de 2017 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: protección de los menores contra el abuso.

please send this letter to me from any branch you have access to, in any language.

John Davis

Darkspilver. I can even see where it can be even more complicated let's look at just the US for congregations that maybe on a border of a state or a foreign language congregation that has members in different states but meeting in the same congregation. Each state would have their own laws and it would depend on where the act took place and that is how the law would determine things.

Even in Europe where it is common for people to travel quite frequently to other countries within the union if the offense took place in one country where it might be legal for that to have occurred but was reported in another country where the age of consent is higher. How do you deal with a situation like that?

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September 1, 2017 BOE Re: Protecting Minors From Abuse?

by wifibandit in

i have it in spanish for now: .

1 de septiembre de 2017 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: protección de los menores contra el abuso.

please send this letter to me from any branch you have access to, in any language.

John Davis

thank you darkspilver that is interesting. https://www.courts.state.co.us/Courts/Education/Youth/Laws.cfm says that the law says that the age of majority is 21 but that 18 year olds are treated as adult with some exceptions. But that the parents are still liable for their child until the age of 21. The law is an extremely complicated thing and isn't always cut and dry.

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September 1, 2017 BOE Re: Protecting Minors From Abuse?

by wifibandit in

i have it in spanish for now: .

1 de septiembre de 2017 a los cuerpos de ancianos asunto: protección de los menores contra el abuso.

please send this letter to me from any branch you have access to, in any language.

John Davis

yes darkspilver and to make things even more consuming is in the US there is a range of age of consents between 16 and 18 depending on the state, this is even though the age of majority is the same in all states 18. And even to make it even worst is in some countries there are different ages of consent depending if it is heterosexual sex vs homosexual sex.

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August 31, 2017 BOE Re: Procedure for Handling Certain Cases of Wrongdoing

by wifibandit in

august 31, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: procedure for handling certain cases of wrongdoing.

John Davis

It is nothing new for those that are classified as Bethelietes. it has always been the procedure that if you are a betheliete your judicial committee might be bethelietes. Normally it would be a brother from Service, your table head and then another elder in bethel. If you are a missionary it would be the same thing except with the home overseer of the missionary home.

It is because Bethel considers those in the Religious Order of Special Full Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses as being a family and that the discipline would be conducted within the family. Now construction volunteers fall within that order now.

And the letter did not say that all of those cases would be handled directly by elders in bethel but that they will choose if they are to take the case directly or let the local body of elders handle it. Also, it is important for those who are remote, that if the person is reproved or the body may choose that the investigative committee doesn't have sufficient evidence to continue, bethel may want to revoke their assignment and revoke access to their systems.

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Judge orders Jehovah’s Witness to release molestation files

by cobweb in

https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/aug/30/citylights-judge-orders-jehovahs-witness-release/#.

judge orders jehovah’s witness to release molestation files.

eighteen years of horror in linda vista.

John Davis

I am not defending Watchtower in this by this statement. it is just merely a statement of fact. The Padron appeal will be heard in oral arguments on October 11, 2017 and the decision from the appeals court will be rendered within 90 days from the oral arguments.

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Of hurricanes and 9/11

by zeb in

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a poster commenting on the houston sit and closed kh's made reference to '9/11' referring to the failure of the wt/bethel to offer first aid support to people fleeing from the crashes.. could someone enlighten me please..

John Davis

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/76761/jws-9-11

has a link to the press release about what Watchtower did that day. The Link is dead but the release is on that thread.

It also has a copy of the awake article where it does describe that people sought refuge at Brooklyn Bethel. There is another reference where Watchtower sent material aid to ground zero

I am sure everyone here is going to take those accounts with a huge grain of salt but that is what they claim.

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McFarland Lawsuit

by John Davis in

i am not sure if anyone heard but it does appear that the mcfarland v watchtower lawsuit has been settled.

the court only shows that it was settled so there was no longer a need for a status conference.

that is all that i know on this.

John Davis

As there is nothing to say, I got nothing to say. Just stating a fact.

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McFarland Lawsuit

by John Davis in

i am not sure if anyone heard but it does appear that the mcfarland v watchtower lawsuit has been settled.

the court only shows that it was settled so there was no longer a need for a status conference.

that is all that i know on this.

John Davis

I am not sure if anyone heard but it does appear that the McFarland v Watchtower lawsuit has been settled. The court only shows that it was settled so there was no longer a need for a status conference. That is all that I know on this.